Posts by Las Malvinas son Argentinas

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Here’s the rundown so you don’t have to watch if you don’t want to. IMO the lyrics are clunky and not suited for his nasal and baritone singing voice, nor do they tread any new ground. LE actually stole a line from Ben Shapiro at one point - “facts don’t care about your feelings”. He claimed in the beginning that there are no songs about atheism whilst a lot are about God. Actually I can think of one - “God” by John Lennon. I know that’s an impossible standard for a hack like LE to attain, but he would have been better off had he taken inspiration from that song. In Lennon’s song he explained what God was and wasn’t. For him it was a concept where we measure our pain, before going through what he did and didn’t believe in. Lloyd just heads right into this subject tackling it head on with no nuance. He’s essentially making a song about atheism not because he was inspired to do so, but because he wanted to.

Not Your Religion

I lose no sleep if you want to believe what they say
You live in their fantasy
But I've come to see that there is no virtue in faith
Facts just don't care how you feel
God is watching over us
He should beg for what he did
How can you say that he helped you out today
While he was killing 14,000 kids
It's not your religion
There's no man in the sky
It's not your religion
It's you trying not to die
Every God they sold you wasnt true
Everything they promised was a lie
It's not your religion
We're just learning how to fly
Life can be tough
There's no need to heed what I say
Whatever gets you through the week
But some of us want nothing more to do with God much
God messes all that we need
God is watching over us
He's a pridened little man
How can you claim that 6000 years of pain
is a wise and loving master plan
It's not your religion
There's no man in the sky
It's not your religion
It's you trying not to die
Every God they sold you wasn't true
Everything they promised was a lie
It's not your religion
It's just learning how to fly
It's not your religion
It's just learning how to fly

From the applause it sounds like there are 10 to 15 people there. Someone calls out for him to repeat the chorus but didn’t know what the English word for it was. Hi Tibor!

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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I thought Old Goat was also quite argumentative and a little patronising

Of course he was. He even called himself a cranky old man. He was reacting to Lloyd coming out of nowhere and in his first sentence saying that the point he had made in his email to jwfacts had been lost on some.

This was his go-to passive-aggressive insult in the early days- “I don’t think many of you are getting the point I was trying to make” like we’re all stupid and he’s here to teach us. Often the point he was making was of such minor detail - such as WT deleting the flags out of a re-creation of the Cedars Point convention. The point OG was making was why would WT want to put the flags into their new video? It would probably lead to bunch of questions and letters written about the prominence of the flags.

Flags are present at many WT events round the world where they are renting worldly venues. It wasn’t any big deal back then and still isn’t. WT omitting the flags didn’t exactly reek of the cover-up as Lloyd was making it to be, but it was rather one of convenience.

Another interesting thing from that thread was Lloyd employing quite likely the first instance of his “you are making it look bad to doubting JWs” argument - the exact same one he uses today when people are talking about him and what he has done:

For your information I only became firm in my understandings about the society a few weeks ago - and YOU are making this sort of site look bad to a first-timer like me

This post was made in 2011. Now read his account from TRA. Lloyd relates that on New Years Day in 2010 that he wrote his 9 grievances against the WT to his wife where he came to the conclusion that he doubted the WT was God’s organisation and expressed his desire to fade away. It was only until sometime in 2011 that he wrote a formal letter to the elders letting them know he would become inactive. But him being “firm in my understandings” dated to 1/1/2010 at least. Lloyd had just recently publicly stated he was going inactive when he made that post, but he’s misrepresenting himself as someone who had just woken up. That simply wasn’t true. He had been a PIMO for at least 1 1/2 years before and if you read those 9 grievances, you’d know how “firm” he was in those convictions.

But it served his argument well to make the case he was just newly awakened and so he greatly exaggerated and weaponised that to use in a forum argument where he felt he was being attacked.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Other people being harmed is neither here nor there, what matters is if you’ve insulted his inflated sense of himself.

What I find hilarious is how a self described cranky old man got the best of him in his introduction to the forum and you can just tell how personal Lloyd took it.

Old Goat - Wherever you are - You had “cedars” sized up in just the brief time you engaged with him than what it took years for many to figure out.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/214208/watchtower-falsification-history?page=3

Here’s a few choice quotes:

Cedars - don't be silly. I no where suggested that he needed my approval for a post. I don't need your approval to express my opinion on this post either. You like this because it gives you a sense of self-justification.

The one who wishes to stifle debate here is you. Not me. You need to reasses just how important this all is to you. If you are seeking a place where only your feelings, wishes and beliefs are reflected, you've come to the wrong forum.

I have the impression that you're fairly young. Hey! Everyone's young as far as I'm concerned. But I mean on the truly youngish side. Do not make life harder than it needs to be. People will always have opinions that differ from ours. That they have contrary opinions does not invalidate our beliefs or ourselves. Why do I suddenly feel like I need to parent you? How silly of me. I wish you well, Cedars. I think you have some hard lessons to learn, and I wish I could make that process easier for you. Unfortunately I cannot.

Cedar, I though you were through with this. Apparently not. If you reasoned as badly as you do here while within the Watchtower organization, you probably had endless anger and never “got” anything right.

Click on the link above to see how Lloyd responded but I think you already know how that went.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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If this is his fan base, good luck to him. Oh how the might have fallen.

You cannot even script this any better. Chastity Queen is a Dominatrix with with an Only Fans link where she sexually humiliates paying customers, and she’s telling him to sue sue sue… because Lloyd got humiliated.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Ok, so he publicly apologises to Tibor for forgetting his birthday.

This is vintage Lloyd and one of his common methods of hiding his real character.

He knows he is well known (even among his supporters) to never admit he’s wrong. So he chooses a relatively light or even non-existent offence like forgetting Tibor’s birthday and apologises. No one knew or cared about it and he thinks he’s the adult in the room for apologising even though no one really knew he forgot it or even the date of Tibor’s birthday.

He did the same thing with his 3 Feb 2022 FB statement where he “apologises” to Producer Bob for accusing her of hacking his livestream. Then he throws shade at her and claims she was involved in the leak. The apology to PB was just a maneuver to distract from the meat of the livestream admissions. The PB accusation was low hanging fruit and unrelated to what people really were talking about in the aftermath.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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…pretend he's a swell family man instead of the reality - someone that abandons them when he wants to visit hookers.

This is precisely what he is doing. He’s been fundraising off of his family for years and has ramped it up since he has gotten exposed. This is coming from a man who actually had the nerve to accuse people of attacking his family in the days following his revelation of embarrassing details of their sexual relationship. His mention of his wife needing a job and possibly being laid off (and by extension his children suffering) was likely responsible for 1/2 of the new patrons if not more joining after that begging video.

The Lloydgate account on Twitter posted all sorts of screengrabs of him tweeting at the Australian govt., Qatar Airlines, KLM and just downright bitching about the possibility of his wife’s visa being delayed and how his family might not join him in Australia. It’s rather important to know what was going on behind the scenes since we now know he would have not minded going without her, perhaps even welcomed it since it would have given him opportunities to seek out sex. But he complained anyway about his wife not going because it fit his narrative that he was so devoted to them.

It is so disingenuous of Jabba the Hutt to keep planting his flag on the myth of him being a “family man”. We also know from that Dijana email that he only interacts with his children when it is on his time and when he desires it. When he’s scrolling dating sites they are simply a nuisance. Even when he does engage he emotionally manipulates them by crying in front of them in order to deflect blame towards their mother.

He’s hardly any benefit to his children. He’s just an emotional parasite.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Jabba the Hutt - Not to worry. I have it now thanks to a good friend.

Whew, that was fucking close! That had the makings of pure disaster. Disaster! Cataclysm! Catastrophe! Calamity! Tribulation! Activism as we know it would have gone to shit if Lloyd Evans didn’t get that video and the production quality wasn’t crystal clear. Just think of the lives that weren’t saved during this period of delay!

Hold on, I just got a DM from a Nigerian prince who is going to wire me millions if I give him my bank account information and I shan’t dawdle. That would be maladministration on my part! Be back later, and depending on how many millions I pull from this, I might be willing to find a JWN meetup in Dubai!

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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A week later and it looks like he's not getting the response he wants...

Then why does he need to be paid for this if he has to resort to social media to ask for what many unpaid and volunteer activists have already had for weeks? Thought that was covered under the reason he needed a “team” of paid employees? Rhetorical question, you don’t need to answer that.

He made some bold claims on his “Things Are Bad” video about how activism would suffer if he were to drop output to 3 videos a month. It seems “activism” is doing just fine without him.

One could ask where the money is going to but you’ll get a snarky response for an question everyone already knows the answer to.

This is like paying your landscaper or house cleaner for work, only to have them knock on your door telling you they don’t know where to get the supplies and they really need your assistance on that, otherwise it might not get done in time or the quality could suffer.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Notice how he doesn't say he wants to built a house for his kids.

He’s being sarcastic. The equivalent of three pairs of Apple Goggles are not going to purchase himself land in Zagreb. Jabba the Hutt keeps on reading this thread which has become more active lately about his grift.

Lloyd, to confirm, please mention something about Star Wars in your next tweet.

Or “abnegate” or some other word you recently found. Hey - how’s the lawsuit going? You’d better get on that, there are “criminals” on the loose that are still committing the same “crimes” against you and your “family”.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

The difference between Evans and Schofield is that he is his own employer and he works freelance. The exJWs had already adjudicated as he himself stated on the livestream and it was decidedly in the negative after he lost the majority of his financial support and very few people will actually work with him anymore.

It would be like Schofield setting up a YouTube channel with a grandiose title and interviewing Andrew Ridgeley from Wham and a few struggling former reality television stars who are trying to get attention.

Evans also has his wife tethered to him in what has to be one of the oddest situations imaginable. He still gets supporters of his actually sending supportive messages to her through him. Imagine getting messages of support and wishes of family reconciliation like she is getting all filtered down through her abuser!

She may not understand this or even perhaps she does, but her continued silence on this matter and allowing her name to be used by him as an employee of his company only serves to enable him. Many supporters are left thinking, “well if she has forgiven him and supports his work, then we should too!”. Never underestimate the scope of the emotional manipulation when he keeps broadcasting that his victim was going to be further victimised by losing her job – and it’s all the fault of the people who blew the whistle on him!

Hmmm, I never thought of that angle. Maybe the Symbionese Liberation Army wasn’t all that bad because Patty Hearst showed up on that picture wearing a beret in front of their flag? It was just a kidnapping and continued rape, but she seems fine with it now. Live and let live I say. Who else wants to be kidnapped and raped? Might turn out to be a political reawakening of sorts.

She could put an end to him right now by simply asking him in public to stop using her name and that she has resigned, but she won’t. (And yes, she can resign as an employee, yet still maintain her financial interest in his company, especially when it comes to a divorce settlement). So the community must suffer some more from a vicious and abusive grifter because Mrs Evans wants and needs her child support plus a little extra for self care.

My sympathy for her as an abuse victim ends when she’s complicit with his patterns of abuse and conning people out of their money all because she wants to be paid. This bullshit has gone on long enough and the more I hear her name brought up as a fundraising tool, the deeper she is involved in all this. If she wants to be treated “like a rag for cleaning the floor”, that’s her choice.

The worst thing about this is she knows how abusive he can be. But it’s fine guys, it’s just manipulation and gaslighting. You’ll live. I survived it, so can you.

We’re not being treated this way and that’s why he’s going to continue to take the piss from us.

Oops, I’ve just “attacked his family”. More defamation I suppose, get those pledges ready. This post has upset Dijana, her mother and their neighbour. The best way to combat this is to give her abuser more money.

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